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Interview: Joe Quesada
My Lunch with Joe: The Interview
By Matt Yocum
Published: 2006-07-12
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I met with Joe Quesada while attending the Wizard World Los Angeles
Convention in March 2006. I’d won an online ebay auction
sponsored by ACTOR (A Commitment to Our Roots) that allowed me
a one hour lunch with Joe and a personalized sketch. The one hour
lunch — which was to be at a sports bar we discovered was closed
— turned into two and a half hours at a nearby Holiday Inn cafe.
The sketch became a rendition of my first love, Iron Man. Our
discussion ranged all over the map: auction stories (me of how I won
the bid on ebay, he of a failed opportunity to win a Beatles guitar
pick which he later discovered, to his pleasure, was a fake), talk of
Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, and Steve Ditko, a discussion of current artists
and writers, and, of course, talk of the Civil War now raging among
Marvel’s heroes.
While at the lunch, I had the chance to record an interview with
Joe and get his thoughts on several topics. He addressed each
question with the time and attention he would have given a reporter
from the New York Times. No matter the venue in which he is
speaking or being interviewed, Joe Q is one of comics’ greatest
evangelists. The audio interview conducted with Joe turned out to be
of too poor a quality to include on ComicCritique.Com, however the
following is as near an accurate transcription of the interview as
could be made. Where the audio quality was completely unclear,
you’ll see [brackets] which serve as the transcribers’
closest approximation.
Matt Yocum: This is Matt
Yocum from ComicCritique.com, and I want to thank Joe Quesada, the
editor-in-chief at Marvel Comics for having lunch with me.
Joe Quesada: It’s great meeting you Matt, and we had fun.
MY: The first question I have is, what do you feel has been
the hardest part about your role as editor-in-chief at Marvel Comics?
JQ: Early on the hardest part for me was sort of
re-establishing and recreating new systems at Marvel. And one of the
unusual things that I found when I took over was how much of the
actual business of comics and the way comics were being built was
still stuck in a forty year old tradition. When you think of any
business, any modern business, businesses have to adapt, they have to
change with the times, they have to change with the [community], with
different tastes and with the world of technology. And even the way
Marvel was doing their comics was still stuck in a twenty year old
cycle. I think that if we could go back in time to sort of the heyday
of 1965 when Marvel was really coming to prevalence and you pulled
Stan Lee aside and said, “Hey Stan, I’m from the future,
and do you know that 40 years from now, 50 years from now, we’re
still making comics exactly as you do now, he’d probably go,
“Oh my god, you’re kidding me? You haven’t
grown?”
That was a real shocker to me, how things were still being done in
that old way. And the reason why they were being done (and this
should be a lesson to anyone getting involved in business with the
creative world) was “we do it this way because that’s the
way it’s always been done.” And the one thing that I
learned to ask is, you gotta ask “Why?” A lot. And when
you say “but why?” [and get], “Well you know,
because you’re supposed to.” “But why?” And
eventually you get to the point where somebody can’t really give
you a good reason why something is being done the way it’s done
then you know you have to change it and you know you have to
look for a different way of doing it.
“When you begin writing, put your comics away. Put them away. Draw from life, don’t
draw from comics… at the end
of the day you have to learn how to write.”
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In current times, I think the toughest thing for me as
Editor-in-Chief is I don’t get as much of a chance to do my own
creative stuff. I literally have to take time between the meetings.
You know, I get fifteen minutes here between meetings, I’ll get
to draw one panel or half a panel, or here’s half an hour time,
do I go to lunch or do I draw? It’s a real drain on me the fact
that I don’t get to do as much creative stuff as I used to.
MY: Well a lot of the people at ComicCritique.Com I think
have expressed interest in writing and certainly there’s a lot
of prospective artists out there, and I’m sure this is a
question you get a lot, but what would you say to a prospective writer
and also to the prospective artist?
JQ: Well you just have to do it. You just have to keep
writing, keep drawing. My first bit of advice is if you’re a
fan of comics, great. When you begin writing, or you begin drawing,
put your comics away. Put them away. Draw from life, don’t
draw from comics. Write from life. Go to writing courses.
It’s wonderful to talk to comic writers to get their opinions on
things and how they view certain things, but at the end of the day you
have to learn how to write. In many ways, comics are a distraction of
real life. There’s a lot of [fantasy] involved, there’s a
lot of structure and that goes for drawing as well. So that’s
my first bit of advice, learn your craft, learn your craft, learn your
craft.
And then once you learn it, you have to start doing it.
There’s so many people who show me portfolios, let’s take
artists for example, and they’ll show me three pages and
it’s hell on the pages that aren’t finished. And I kind
of look at them and say “Would you go to a job interview and
show me half a resume?” Or go to the job interview and not dress
properly for the job you’re being interviewed for? Because
that’s what you’re doing with your portfolio. The first
thing is, you could be the most talented person in the world, but the
first thing that goes through my mind is this is a person who can
never finish an assignment. So you know, be prepared. Learn your
craft. Put together a small portfolio and present yourself properly.
“ I think the thing I’m proudest about is the
Heroes magazine that we did after 9/11. That was really an
amazing moment, and I hope we never have to do it again.”
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MY: Have you had a certain issue on any of the series
you’ve written, that has touched you deeply and personally and
if so why?
JQ: Well, you know, again because of my limited time
I’m running late as usual, Daredevil: Father is one of the
things that’s really been the most emotional thing that
I’ve ever done. You know, I literally wrote the outline for the
story on, what I didn’t know at the time, was my father’s
deathbed.
He was at the hospital, and I went to visit him for a week, and he
sat there watching TV, trying to overcome respiratory problems. And I
sat there for a week right next to him. I had nothing else to do, and
I just started writing this story, and it just sort of manifested
itself based on this small idea I originally had that I thought would
be a one issue thing that turned out to be a six issue thing. And
when I finished the story, it was the day I had to leave. I was going
to come back a few days later, but I had to run back to New York for
this [xxxxx] thing. I kissed my father goodbye, and getting on the
plane, and landing in New York that night, and the next morning
getting a call that he’d passed away in the hospital. So every
ounce of this story is for him.
MY: What would you say has been your proudest accomplishment
as a creator — as an artist or a writer — the thing that
you look back on and say I’m more proud of that than anything
I’ve done.
JQ: Wow. I think the thing I’m proudest about is the
Heroes magazine that we did after 9/11. That was really an
amazing moment, and I hope we never have to do it again. The comics
industry came together to put that magazine out in record time. When
you consider how many pages, in full color, with text and art, and we
put that thing together in like two, three weeks. It was truly
probably the thing I’m proudest of, you know, in my…
I’ve been in comics for almost fifteen years.
“You could be the
most talented person in the world, but the
first thing that goes through my mind when I
see an unfinished portfolio is this is a person
who can never finish an assignment.”
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MY: Let’s turn to what’s coming out here shortly
which is Civil War. You’ve been kind of building toward
this Civil War. We’ve seen the signs of it coming. And my
question is, a lot of times things are hyped, and they claim
they’re going to change the status quo and ultimately they bring
things right back to where they started. So that’s the
question, is that going to be the case here, are things going to
revert back or is this truly meant to change the status quo through
the miniseries Civil War?
JQ: Well, it’s absolutely going to change the status
quo. Obviously more so with certain characters than others. There
will be things that will happen in Civil War that you will say,
“I can’t believe they actually did it.” The ending
of Civil War #2 you’ll go, “I can’t believe
they did it. It must be a dream sequence.” But it’s not a
dream, folks, I’m telling you. No, there’s a lot of great
stuff happening within it.
I think it’s one of the most interesting concepts. And again
I don’t say this because I’m at Marvel — but I do
— but I think it’s one of the most interesting concepts
for an event that’s come around in a long, long time. And I
think that’s [indicative] of Mark Millar and Brian Bendis.
Usually a big event in comics and crossovers in comics [operate sort
of] by nature. So why they get a lot of attention, especially why the
media pick up on them, if John Q. Public decided they read the article
and said, “Hey, look here. So and so has a big event,”
they’ll probably go to their comic store, pick up the book, and
have no idea what’s happening. Civil War is meant to be
accessible; it’s a very easy premise to get. You need no
knowledge of the Marvel universe to understand it.
All you need to understand is that the U.S. government is asking
superheroes to register. To register their names — their real
names — their aliases, and their powers, and to become trained.
Because just like our policemen, our firemen, our military, they
don’t hand you a gun, they don’t hand you an M-16. You
have to go through strict training to do these things.
“Something happens in Civil War where
the populace, the human populace of the Marvel universe, says we want
this.”
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And basically superheroes are walking WMDs. Let’s look at it
from a real world perspective. Imagine you’re walking down the
street, and all the sudden this guy’s coming at you, wearing a
wrestler mask, and each one’s carrying an M-16. What are you
thinking? Okay. Even, if they say, “Hey, we’re the good
guys. We’re policing your neighborhood.” You’re
going to be like no, hell no, you’re wearing a mask. I
don’t even know who you are. You’d be petrified. And
putting the whole idea of superheroes in a real world perspective, I
think is really interesting.
And also the timing of the event, it’s [a little more close
to me right now]. We question that here in the States. We struggle,
and that’s not a very simple question, would you give up your
civil liberties for your personal freedom? And I don’t think
there’s a right or wrong answer here. I think it’s a very
personal question, and I think everybody’s got a different
answer on it. And our heroes and our characters feel exactly the same
way. And I’ve already heard fans going, “Oh, bad
government! Bad government!” And what people seem to forget is
that in the Marvel universe the reason this is happening is not
because the government willy-nilly decided they wanted to do this, but
because it’s the will of the people. Something happens in
Civil War where the populace, the human populace of the Marvel
universe says we want this. And the government does what
responsible government does — it answers the will of the people.
So if this is what you want, then this is what we will instigate. So
that’s the way that the story goes forward.
MY: It sounds extremely interesting. I’m looking
forward to it. You’ve seen the new art now, you’ve read
the scripts. So already from what you’ve seen, or from what the
series intends to do as a whole, what do you see is the most exciting
thing about, maybe not within the issues themselves, but what this
series will accomplish? What do you see is the most exciting thing
about it?
JQ: Well, it’s going to change the Marvel universe for
quite a while. It really will. But I think for me the most exciting
thing is already it’s been getting mainstream play. The New
York Times covered it, and there are plans for a lot more — I
can’t really say right now, but I know it’s coming up.
It’s really exciting the places where you’re going to read
and see Civil War. And to me I’m very proud because I
know that someone who’s never picked up a comic before can pick
this up and will have an immediate understanding of the story and will
want to follow it. Because all great stories … You know, I kind
of equate Civil War to … [the rumor stops here; I’m a
fan of] Battlestar Galactica. One of the reasons that
Battlestar Galactica to me is so wonderful is, even with all
the bells and whistles and stuff, every story they do is about a real
world event that’s happening today. They’ve been doing
terrorist stories, they’ve been doing political intrigue
stories, election stories. You know, I don’t want to spoil the
season finale [Season 3] for anybody, but it is all about
today’s world and today’s politics, and it’s doing
what Star Trek did when it was at its very best. Dealing with
social issues and disguising it in a fantasy element. And
that’s exactly what Civil War does. And by the way, when
Marvel comics are at their best — it’s when we do stories
like this.
MY: Again, I want to thank you for the lunch. I want to
thank you for the opportunity to talk to you. And I want to thank you
too, that it’s clear you’re not just an editor and a
creator, but you’re also a fan. And that, to other fans, I
think you can see it. And I just want to thank you for that.
JQ: Thank you very much, Matt. And to all the fans out
there, thank you. Because you guys — every day, I’m
thankful and I’m blessed for the career I have, but
wouldn’t have it without the fans out there supporting. You
guys pay my rent! Thank you!
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